I am mainly starting this thread to see what all you PC SR players are getting in terms of performance and what your PC specs are to get that performance. This will likely spark some discussion in terms of how much the power of a PC effects the skills of a given player. Naturally being the OP i will start with mine. I will list all the specs i think matter for shadowrun in specific. Feel free to include more or point out other factors.
CPU: 4.7Ghz Quad core (couldn't get 5 :( )
RAM: 12GB DDR3 2400Mhz
GFX: two GTX570s in SLI overclocked to get about 13% higher performance
HDD: 128GB SSD 512mb/s R\W
OS: Windows 7 optimized to run as little background tasks when the game is started
Monitor (separate because is MATTERS a lot)
response time: 8ms
input lag: 6.3ms
refresh rate: True 120hz
Now that i have listed my specs we can go over my performance a bit(might be a bit some duplicate info from the PC VS Xbox thread)
First off i run shadowrun at MAX in game setting including standard AA at 12x. I run in game AA because a really believe it works better in game rather than driver level. My GFX cards are nvidia so this will be nvidia control panel based(sorry AMD guys). I run anisotropic AA at 16x, transparency at 8x, vsync just "on". I also have the frames in advanced set to 1. Preferred framerate set to "highest available" this is the setting that must be on to overcome the in game stand refresh of 30fps or 60fps. All the other options the same. I do install a patch to use vsync to overlay frame at the highest possible outcome(a lot like triple buffering but different LOL)
With this being said i run shadowrun at 1440p which is exactly double the resolution of xbox since it only runs at 720p(even on a 1080p screen). With my screen i run at a true 120hz but at 480FPS(got to turn too many things off to get 960fps). I also get what is usually about double the response speed of traditional TV's xbox users have since my monitor has no scaler(meaning only one port and must be on a video card in a computer). the response time and input lag help with the natural motion stutter or juddering that you get when playing SR on xbox(it is kinda like a jumping of the picture you don't even notice it until you see SR on PC). Also with all the anti-aliasing settings i can see you clear as day whether you are in my face or all the way across the map.
Next to game play:
I basically get a 4:1 kill death ratio all the time for the most part. meaning for every time i am killed i kill 4 people. My hit percentage is usually close to 80 percent which is quite high for what i have seen of typical players. I may even be able to up the hit% if i didn't just SMG all the time(also note that this is close to the hit percentage i had on xbox SR WITH smartlink which i never use anymore). I generally score around 6000-7500 points a match because i resurrect people like crazy.
Overall i am not a very serious player and really only play for fun so my stats being as high as they are could very well be due to my ridiculous computer. What i am hoping is others post a likely more summarized PC setup, settings, and performance to how much the PC is or could make a difference.
Here's my setup:
OS: Windows 8
Processor: Intel Core i7-3630QM CPU @2.40GHz
Graphics Card: Nvidia GT-650M w/ dedicated 2GB
Monitor: 17.3" w/ Resolution 1600x900
I have all SR settings on minimized. This is more from habit since that's what I had on my old machine. I haven't played with the settings at all to know how they affect my game or the way it looks. Everything looks fine to me so I haven't tried messing with it.
I'm not a hardcore gamer so I don't know much about overclocking or what affects gameplay and what doesn't. All I know is I get about 260fps and when I record it drops to about 90-100fps.
As far as gameplay, I can hit 60-70% if I really tried. I've only hit 80 like once or twice. Like I said before I could not do this on my old machine so this is all because of my new laptop.
@spartan - Why do you have such a tricked out machine? Seems like a bit too much IMO unless you're a game developper or something.
Also, I know this isn't the right place to ask this but I keep getting stuck on the loading screen to get into games. Sometimes it can be as long as 1 or 2 minutes and then I join the game or I lose connection to server. Do you guys know of a possible solution to this? I remember someone asking this but I don't know if they were able to fix it or not
I use the smg because i like using the smg. I am really confused why you would kick someone for that. I play the game to have fun and i have fun running around with the smg. Kicking someone for this is just plain stupid.
Anyway you guys can get a lot better performance if you turn detailed shaders off. They don't provide a great boost in quality and kill framerate(even mine). That M11X laptop should be able to run the game pretty well so there is definitely something wrong there.
I also think the computer nerd comment is out of line. What the heck does that mean? You are playing a game on a PC and setting the game up is a crucial point of even playing. I mean "nerd" as a derogatory comment is a relative insult. There is (apparently) none Nerdy people who will call you a nerd for even playing a game on PC much less be on an internet forum discussing it. This is likely why you can barely push the game sense you have this sort of fobia of "nerdy" stuff. Man that bugs me..... What a drop down killer stereotype against intelligence(the fate of "Murica" when stupid is cool). Just watch tossing that around is all i ask.
Also, Yes i do a lot of developing with HTML, JAVA and C+. I also help manage a few websites. You will find me a lot on overclock.net and XDA forums. I also do a good deal of work remotely with my day job(usually i go into the office). I built this machine because i can LOL. On a serious note, i built a machine that would be in a way future proof. With a little modding and tweaking, overclocking and file editing with some over-achieving i wanted to be ahead of the curve for a while. In addition many people just go to the store and buy a best buy pre-built Ecrap machine. Well that is not me. Even quality name brand PCs don't have jack on a custom built machine(including alienware) I went online to actual manufacturer sites and build my machine from the ground up piece by piece with the budget of my bonus that year(meaning not much of a budget).
@DJ Da best - Try updating your directx software and also make sure you have the latest game update for shadowrun(update3). I would also check your shadowrun specific 3D settings in the nvidia control panel primarily any extra aliasing settings that may be forced on that your machine is having issues with.
It isn't stupid for someone to vote someone out who has obvious pc advantages and still uses the easiest weapon in the game to use. I bet you use human mostly as well. I understand you play for fun, but there are a lot of more players than just you in the game. You running the obvious overpowered build of human pc smg every game ruins the fun for other players, and that's why they vote you out. That isn't stupid at all, especially since you could at least have the decency and common respect for the other players in the game. I also don't buy the comment that using nothing but smg is fun. If you are limiting yourself to that then you are limiting yourself from a lot great experiences this game can provide. It sounds like you just like trying as hard as you can, using whatever you can to win the game, when it's about much more than that.
As far as the nerd comment goes, well I am a nerd when it comes to a lot of things so I am free to call anyone a nerd that I want to. Don't be such a nerd about it.
I think the processor in my laptop sucks and that is why I can't push Shadowrun.
Always remember, those who play Shadowrun are better than those who don't.
It is funny how certain people take away only parts of comments. Yeah the whole concept of "nerd" pisses me off but that was by far not the primary focus of my post. This thread has become completely off topic and so far i am not too impressed with the way people treat others in this forum. It is really kinda sad.
I said i use the SMG but i don't always use it. I will use the rifle and strangle a lot too. I am definitely not just trying to win because a lot of time i will gauge myself to allow the game to drag on. I hate jumping in a game and just having it go 6 rounds and out. I like a game with a good comeback or an equal fight. I can say i sav not limited myself, like any other player that plays a lot of games and likes to explore them i have tried EVERY aspect of shadowrun.
So overall i agree with your premise that IF all i was doing was SMG hording with an overpowered PC sure, but this is not the case. I know there are other players and this comment basically is completely useless except to put me on the fence against the whole community(an isolation tactic in debates). Also me not having respect is a false assumption and completely unhelpful in the topic of this thread. Overall i very much hope you do not speak as one for the shadowrun community because that would be quite depressing.
@Fishy - This comment was not only negative and unhelpful it is literally a waste of time to post.
I totally overread your assumption that i use a human a lot. Actually i almost never use a human. I am almost always an Elf or Troll. I don't use human because it is too generic for me and like you pointed out it is one of the easiest to use. I don't use a Dwarf because i hate trying to grab essence all the time. Also booting someone from the game when they are only doing something that is part of the game is ridiculous. That is like the people who repeatidly boot people for clearing bodies or scoring the artifact. It IS selfish and a lack of respect for your follow player. I have a PC and a good one but that does not stop anyone from doing the same thing and is inherently part of the game.
I tell you what how about i agree to stop using the SMG as much as i am right now. Maybe try some sniping or just beng Mr. Ninja elf for a while and you agree to stop trying to bash, isolate and make false assumptions about me. I think this is a neat topic for a thread(the OP topic) and i think it would be neat if the comments started to be more helpful and contributing to PC players(which was the point).
Yes you are correct about my assumptions, and I apologize for assuming you play human all the time. It is nice to know that you do care about others in the game and gauge yourself towards the competition. But going 76-4(or whatever) does not sound like you are gauging anything. And I wasn't trying to bash or isolate anything about you, I was just pointing out the reasoning in why votes are called, which you called stupid I might add. If it seemed that way I apologize for that as well. I obviously did make some assumptions based on the original posts and some thereafter. The MidCoot that I've seen in-game always played elf, but most pc players play human like there is no other race, so there are reasons for those assumptions.
You do realize that by definition, being called a nerd or anything with a nerd reference is technically a compliment. I apologize if my "nerd" talk offends you, it also was not an attempt to bash, but make light of the fact that I have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to pc's.
And finally yes this topic got a little derailed, and if this line of conversation does continue I will move it so it doesn't damage the original post's intentions which are valued.
So basically I apologize if you felt like I was doing anything more than sparking a possible intense debate/conversation, there is no personal attack intended.
Always remember, those who play Shadowrun are better than those who don't.
I am glad we got things cleared up. And the 70+ kills match was a match that i specifically gauged to last it ended up being 6-5 my team. I basically tried to let everyone get resurrects and then kill both the resser and the ressee. I also had some friends in the match to help my endeavors. Push comes to shove it was a one time thing that every time i have tried to do again it has blown up in my face LOL.
I have stopped using the SMG all-together now and honestly i think i am doing even better as my hit% has gone up and i have been getting a bigger kill to death ratio.
I wanted to point out that if you guys have trouble running the game and are getting low frame rate you can try
1. right click
2. Nvidia control panel
3. Manage 3D settings
4. Program settings
5. in the drop down select shadowrun
6. Go to maximum pre-rendered frames
Set this higher and higher and test each time you change it to see if it helps you. If you set it higher it will make the game play smoother even at lower framerates. If you have a good computer and push shadowrun easy but have a sort of "button lag" setting it lower can help your clicks be what happens so to speak.
Your PC has a good processor for the job more than enough to play shadowrun and your memory is pretty good too. The one thing that may be lacking is you video processing. That 4000 integrated chip is OK for a lot of simple stuff but not soo much in gaming. With your monitor resolution i think you could still push the game but may have to turn down the texture quality and shaders in the in-game settings. After that you should be fine. I would look into a dedicated card if you want a bit more performance or get a higher quality monitor at some point. I think shadowrun should work fine in Windows 8 but you may have to open it in "compatibility mode" like this:
1. Right click on the shadowrun icon
2. Go to properties
3. Click on compatibility
4. Check the box that says "run this program in compatibility mode"
5. Set the mode to windows vista
Should work but if it does not feel free to come back and ask me about it.
@omnipotive - you should definitely try the game on PC. You might not ever look back lol...well besides cross-platform chat being broken and all.
@spartan - Thanks I'll try your suggestions. I probably won't play again until the weekend so I'll let you know if it works then. The weirdest thing is that I think the game goes on while I'm on the loading screen and then when I finally join the game, for the first 5-10 seconds, a super-fast motion of what I missed replays and all I see is people dying left and right until things catch up and then the game continues normally. I've never seen this before until now.
That is definitely buffering of the textures. Basically your video card loads up all the game data but is not fast enough to do it in real time at first and has to cache or pre-load stuff in advance. Once it finally gets done it throughs you in the match but stuf has happened already so it has to catch up (thus the fast forward effect). I would recommend turning your quality settings in the NVCP to performance and see how it goes as well.
i52400s @2.5ghz with turbo boost up to 3.3
8 gb ddr3
gigabyte gtx 660 (love this...works great for mmrpg's also)
1.5 tb hard drive
I got it at CostCo and it included a 25" monitor. Upgraded the video card a few months ago. Great way to go for a gaming pc, in my opinion. They sell PC's really cheap, which have good processors, and then you just upgrade the gpu when you're ready (thank you YouTube!).
Ok so I built a PC completely for free using spare parts i scavenged from work, i'm gonna post the details and request someone recommends me a decent graphics card? I want the cheapest possible that will play LoL, PoE and Shadowrun with decent performance.
(If that's even possible with my build, never played games on PC before so for all i know i've just built a grandma PC)
Windows 7 x64
Intel Pentium Dual-Core e5400 - 2.7Mhz- 2MB cache - 800Mhz
-will insert mobo here later-
2x 2GB 800Mhz DDR2 RAM
4x 60GB HDD
GeForce 7300 LE <---What I need to upgrade (obvs)
Planning to OC, the e5400 OC's really well apparently. So far doesn't seem to go above 30% even when updating so not sure if it's necessary.
So yeah, any advice, recommendations, and help on getting SR running on it would be great (: